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		<title>By: Kathleen Cole</title>
		<link>http://okdork.com/2007/08/16/why-customer-services-sucks-ass-and-ways-to-improve/comment-page-1/#comment-750301</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outsourcing to foreign countries sucks ass even more. Yes, you missed a couple of things: 1) don&#039;t kiss my ass for a living -- just do your job; 2) don&#039;t ever say, &quot;I understand.&quot;; 3) get someone who speaks English to translate for you; 4) never send me a long set of instructions, however clear they may seem, by means of e-mail. This might cover a tiny fraction of what I experienced today with Qwest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outsourcing to foreign countries sucks ass even more. Yes, you missed a couple of things: 1) don&#8217;t kiss my ass for a living &#8212; just do your job; 2) don&#8217;t ever say, &#8220;I understand.&#8221;; 3) get someone who speaks English to translate for you; 4) never send me a long set of instructions, however clear they may seem, by means of e-mail. This might cover a tiny fraction of what I experienced today with Qwest.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole Price</title>
		<link>http://okdork.com/2007/08/16/why-customer-services-sucks-ass-and-ways-to-improve/comment-page-1/#comment-362559</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What i hate is, when after the first ring the phone is answered not by a human but by a recorded message which goes on and on about services and products offered that you dont want to know about and could care less about. Then you have to go thru the menu rigmarole that is often so complicated as to dishearten the most tenacious of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What i hate is, when after the first ring the phone is answered not by a human but by a recorded message which goes on and on about services and products offered that you dont want to know about and could care less about. Then you have to go thru the menu rigmarole that is often so complicated as to dishearten the most tenacious of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
		<link>http://okdork.com/2007/08/16/why-customer-services-sucks-ass-and-ways-to-improve/comment-page-1/#comment-151602</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about we change the whole thing altogether?

I just discovered Satisfaction: http://getsatisfaction.com/

through Jeffrey Veen: http://www.veen.com/jeff/archives/000974.html

I  really look forward to this picking up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about we change the whole thing altogether?</p>
<p>I just discovered Satisfaction: <a href="http://getsatisfaction.com/" rel="nofollow">http://getsatisfaction.com/</a></p>
<p>through Jeffrey Veen: <a href="http://www.veen.com/jeff/archives/000974.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.veen.com/jeff/archives/000974.html</a></p>
<p>I  really look forward to this picking up.</p>
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		<title>By: Patti</title>
		<link>http://okdork.com/2007/08/16/why-customer-services-sucks-ass-and-ways-to-improve/comment-page-1/#comment-135405</link>
		<dc:creator>Patti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work at Timbuk2 (bag company in SF) and we recently changed the language in our order confirmation to be a bit less corporate and more the way we would actually talk to a customer. Almost immediately we started seeing the updated language reviewed in blogs and &quot;thank you&quot; emails to customer service:
http://www.knowhr.com/blog/2007/08/13/hr-communication-lesson-speak-plainly/
http://bwithers.wordpress.com/2007/08/11/timbuk2-has-a-sense-of-humor/

Speaks to how much &quot;corporate&quot; language or language void of human eccentricities is the status quo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work at Timbuk2 (bag company in SF) and we recently changed the language in our order confirmation to be a bit less corporate and more the way we would actually talk to a customer. Almost immediately we started seeing the updated language reviewed in blogs and &#8220;thank you&#8221; emails to customer service:<br />
<a href="http://www.knowhr.com/blog/2007/08/13/hr-communication-lesson-speak-plainly/" rel="nofollow">http://www.knowhr.com/blog/2007/08/13/hr-communication-lesson-speak-plainly/</a><br />
<a href="http://bwithers.wordpress.com/2007/08/11/timbuk2-has-a-sense-of-humor/" rel="nofollow">http://bwithers.wordpress.com/2007/08/11/timbuk2-has-a-sense-of-humor/</a></p>
<p>Speaks to how much &#8220;corporate&#8221; language or language void of human eccentricities is the status quo.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://okdork.com/2007/08/16/why-customer-services-sucks-ass-and-ways-to-improve/comment-page-1/#comment-134932</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From conducting hundreds of customer satisfaction surveys I can tell you you pretty well nailed it on the head.  The problem is people who are typically calling for customer service seem to have little room for humor in their lives at that point and take everything offensively.  If people in general would just lighten up a little bit customer service issues could be a lot more enjoyable.  Great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From conducting hundreds of customer satisfaction surveys I can tell you you pretty well nailed it on the head.  The problem is people who are typically calling for customer service seem to have little room for humor in their lives at that point and take everything offensively.  If people in general would just lighten up a little bit customer service issues could be a lot more enjoyable.  Great post.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah Kagan</title>
		<link>http://okdork.com/2007/08/16/why-customer-services-sucks-ass-and-ways-to-improve/comment-page-1/#comment-133902</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah Kagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa there were a lot of comments. I love how I called T-Mobile last night and there offices were closed. Hmm. So you don&#039;t want my money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa there were a lot of comments. I love how I called T-Mobile last night and there offices were closed. Hmm. So you don&#8217;t want my money?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPDATE to my long psot above.

I happily switched to the iphone and att and now I am paying less than half of what Verizon was going to charge for a far SUPERIOR phone. Plus my finacee, all my family, and all 3 roommates are on att. So, I should save some minutes now ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPDATE to my long psot above.</p>
<p>I happily switched to the iphone and att and now I am paying less than half of what Verizon was going to charge for a far SUPERIOR phone. Plus my finacee, all my family, and all 3 roommates are on att. So, I should save some minutes now <img src='http://okdork.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: otto</title>
		<link>http://okdork.com/2007/08/16/why-customer-services-sucks-ass-and-ways-to-improve/comment-page-1/#comment-133685</link>
		<dc:creator>otto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another one I always get from UPS (in Belgium):

Did you know you can check the status of your shipment online?

Well, I know the status, I checked that online. Now how about a solution to get my parcel to the customer?

Then again, some people there do make a difference and try to get things solved, while others...are just answering the phone.

Otto</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another one I always get from UPS (in Belgium):</p>
<p>Did you know you can check the status of your shipment online?</p>
<p>Well, I know the status, I checked that online. Now how about a solution to get my parcel to the customer?</p>
<p>Then again, some people there do make a difference and try to get things solved, while others&#8230;are just answering the phone.</p>
<p>Otto</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 03:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How I went from a Verizon FAN to no longer being a customer.

So, I went and checked out the iphone. Wow. That this is pretty damn cool. There are a few things about it that irk me.  Like the battery, No Outlook syncing (I know I suck since I use a PC still right?), no third party applications except on web and a few others. But, what really blew me away were the service plans for the iphone. They kick ass. I want data, but I am not willing to pay $50 more for it with Verizon. 

I have been a Verizon FAN for 5 years now. By Fan, I mean that I would tell people how much I love their cell phone service and that customer support has always been good to me. 

Now, with my curiosity peeked from testing the iphone, I called Verizon to get a plan for my Pocket PC Phone that matched that of their competitors. I tell the first CSR that I have been a loyal FAN for 5 years with no billing troubles with me. She agrees to that. So, I tell her about ATT&#039;s plans and how I was thinking about jumping ship. I asked her if Verizon could match or come down to the vicinity of the ATT plans. She said it would cost $50 for data on top of the $75 I pay already for 100 minutes less for equivalent iphone plan. So, I asked to speak to a manager. I told him I had been a fan of Verizon for 5 years, always paid my bills, and before I jumped ship, want to give them a chance to competitively match or come close to the ATT plan. I told him I wasnâ€™t trying to ask for something ridiculous, but this was a competitor and this is what the market is asking. He tried to help and said the best he could do was add an extra 100 minutes and give me data for $45 a month. I told him that just wasn&#039;t going to cut it. He offered me a free phone or a generous amount off a new Pocket PC phone. I told him that phone wasn&#039;t really the issue and the extra 100 minutes were not either, but the data service was. He tried to use the iphone costs $600 dollars and is expensive route. I cleverly pointed out that they were charging me $50 more per month and 12 months X $50 = $600. Interesting. The iphone would easily pay for itself in a year. PLUS I could sell my current Pocket PC Phone and 10gb ipod for roughly $300 total (according to closed ebay auctions). Then, he offered me a free month service to stay. I again told him I don&#039;t mind paying for my service, as long as it was competitively priced. He told me he couldn&#039;t match Att&#039;s plans, valued my business, and was truly sorry.  I then asked if my contract was up and he stated that had been for close to two years. Again, I tried to show him I had been loyal to Verizon even though there was no contract binding me in place and I was giving the opportunity to keep my business by offering me a competitively fair (fair being the keyword) market price for their solutions. Again, no go. So I told him thank you and it was unfortunate to have leave their services and go to a competitor.  

As a service provider myself, if I had a loyal, good customer who was willing to let me keep their business, I would most definitely do it as long as it was fair and within the markets price range. If Verizon would have done this for me, I would have been a HUGE FAN telling everyone I know about the awesome service and support from Verizon. Instead they lost a customer of 5 years. Too bad. I think this is a good lesson to anyone starting a web service. Create fans and keep them. Try not to turn away customers who are willing to pay fair market prices and increase your brand equity by being a fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How I went from a Verizon FAN to no longer being a customer.</p>
<p>So, I went and checked out the iphone. Wow. That this is pretty damn cool. There are a few things about it that irk me.  Like the battery, No Outlook syncing (I know I suck since I use a PC still right?), no third party applications except on web and a few others. But, what really blew me away were the service plans for the iphone. They kick ass. I want data, but I am not willing to pay $50 more for it with Verizon. </p>
<p>I have been a Verizon FAN for 5 years now. By Fan, I mean that I would tell people how much I love their cell phone service and that customer support has always been good to me. </p>
<p>Now, with my curiosity peeked from testing the iphone, I called Verizon to get a plan for my Pocket PC Phone that matched that of their competitors. I tell the first CSR that I have been a loyal FAN for 5 years with no billing troubles with me. She agrees to that. So, I tell her about ATT&#8217;s plans and how I was thinking about jumping ship. I asked her if Verizon could match or come down to the vicinity of the ATT plans. She said it would cost $50 for data on top of the $75 I pay already for 100 minutes less for equivalent iphone plan. So, I asked to speak to a manager. I told him I had been a fan of Verizon for 5 years, always paid my bills, and before I jumped ship, want to give them a chance to competitively match or come close to the ATT plan. I told him I wasnâ€™t trying to ask for something ridiculous, but this was a competitor and this is what the market is asking. He tried to help and said the best he could do was add an extra 100 minutes and give me data for $45 a month. I told him that just wasn&#8217;t going to cut it. He offered me a free phone or a generous amount off a new Pocket PC phone. I told him that phone wasn&#8217;t really the issue and the extra 100 minutes were not either, but the data service was. He tried to use the iphone costs $600 dollars and is expensive route. I cleverly pointed out that they were charging me $50 more per month and 12 months X $50 = $600. Interesting. The iphone would easily pay for itself in a year. PLUS I could sell my current Pocket PC Phone and 10gb ipod for roughly $300 total (according to closed ebay auctions). Then, he offered me a free month service to stay. I again told him I don&#8217;t mind paying for my service, as long as it was competitively priced. He told me he couldn&#8217;t match Att&#8217;s plans, valued my business, and was truly sorry.  I then asked if my contract was up and he stated that had been for close to two years. Again, I tried to show him I had been loyal to Verizon even though there was no contract binding me in place and I was giving the opportunity to keep my business by offering me a competitively fair (fair being the keyword) market price for their solutions. Again, no go. So I told him thank you and it was unfortunate to have leave their services and go to a competitor.  </p>
<p>As a service provider myself, if I had a loyal, good customer who was willing to let me keep their business, I would most definitely do it as long as it was fair and within the markets price range. If Verizon would have done this for me, I would have been a HUGE FAN telling everyone I know about the awesome service and support from Verizon. Instead they lost a customer of 5 years. Too bad. I think this is a good lesson to anyone starting a web service. Create fans and keep them. Try not to turn away customers who are willing to pay fair market prices and increase your brand equity by being a fan.</p>
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		<title>By: BRIAN TANNEBAUM</title>
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		<dc:creator>BRIAN TANNEBAUM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 02:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After I tell you what the problem is, don&#039;t tell me &quot;I&#039;m sorry your having this problem.&quot; I know you aren&#039;t, and are just saying that to kill time while you look for the answer that won&#039;t help me in your database. You know, that answer that is a list of things I&#039;ve already done prior to calling you? The one that causes you to repeat &quot;It should be working&quot; 4 times?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After I tell you what the problem is, don&#8217;t tell me &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry your having this problem.&#8221; I know you aren&#8217;t, and are just saying that to kill time while you look for the answer that won&#8217;t help me in your database. You know, that answer that is a list of things I&#8217;ve already done prior to calling you? The one that causes you to repeat &#8220;It should be working&#8221; 4 times?</p>
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