Comments on: The Education System F'd You http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/ A blog about marketing, online communities and other business musings. Come join the fun! Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:14:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: 15 Meanings » Jumping to the next curve http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/comment-page-1/#comment-123834 15 Meanings » Jumping to the next curve Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:30:37 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/#comment-123834 [...] competition. This is what innovation is about, thinking ahead of what the competition is doing, zigging when everyone else is zagging (thanks Noah for that one, and you are welcome for 2 links in one post), thinking outside of the [...] [...] competition. This is what innovation is about, thinking ahead of what the competition is doing, zigging when everyone else is zagging (thanks Noah for that one, and you are welcome for 2 links in one post), thinking outside of the [...]

]]> By: Melody http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/comment-page-1/#comment-123064 Melody Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:07:43 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/#comment-123064 I completely agree! Sir Ken Robinson made an interesting speech at TED regarding educational reform. He talks about how our society doesn't value creativity and that the structure of schools drives this out of kids. It doesn't answer too many questions, but it's interesting. http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/66 I completely agree! Sir Ken Robinson made an interesting speech at TED regarding educational reform. He talks about how our society doesn’t value creativity and that the structure of schools drives this out of kids. It doesn’t answer too many questions, but it’s interesting.

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/66

]]> By: Joel Mueller http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/comment-page-1/#comment-121153 Joel Mueller Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:43:39 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/#comment-121153 I understand there are issues with the educational system, and that it could use a reform. However, I can't blame the educational system for the mindframes of individuals who would rather follow a system than create a system themselves. It's much easier to plug into a system and go with the flow than create and nourish your own. The people still have a choice....some just don't know that they do. I understand there are issues with the educational system, and that it could use a reform. However, I can’t blame the educational system for the mindframes of individuals who would rather follow a system than create a system themselves. It’s much easier to plug into a system and go with the flow than create and nourish your own. The people still have a choice….some just don’t know that they do.

]]> By: Ben http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/comment-page-1/#comment-120427 Ben Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:46:06 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/#comment-120427 Funny - I just got an email today from Ohio State's Career Services Office telling me to take a class and learn how to write my resume properly and learn how to use Monster.com and other websites to search for a job. My job hunting strategy is going to involve two or three options, the first one being "Email Noah ASAP." :) Funny – I just got an email today from Ohio State’s Career Services Office telling me to take a class and learn how to write my resume properly and learn how to use Monster.com and other websites to search for a job.

My job hunting strategy is going to involve two or three options, the first one being “Email Noah ASAP.”

:)

]]> By: Nick Bakewell http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/comment-page-1/#comment-120395 Nick Bakewell Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:27:48 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/#comment-120395 Excellent points made by everyone. I had this problem with my websites - I would try to jump on every trend that was the new thing and never earned much. Now, I'm doing my own thing - what interests me and what I believe I can do well at, not what everyone else is doing. However, that being said, you should not always ignore what everyone else is doing. Sometimes it stands true that if everyone is doing it there must be a good reason for it. Excellent points made by everyone. I had this problem with my websites – I would try to jump on every trend that was the new thing and never earned much. Now, I’m doing my own thing – what interests me and what I believe I can do well at, not what everyone else is doing.

However, that being said, you should not always ignore what everyone else is doing. Sometimes it stands true that if everyone is doing it there must be a good reason for it.

]]> By: SusanJones http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/comment-page-1/#comment-120249 SusanJones Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:29:25 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/#comment-120249 shout it out! shout it out!

]]> By: Izzy Neis http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/comment-page-1/#comment-120242 Izzy Neis Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:50:45 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/#comment-120242 Yay! Stay off the bandwagons. Being unique is the best route. Odd admission... Growing up with ADD (the ATTENTION based ADD, not the hyperactivity- strangely enough) always kept me away from the zig and firmly on the zag path... Sure, back then I hated it-- all the work and struggle, but now I'm glad I had ADD. Made me really accept that alterior plans are the best kind. Finding my own way to solve problems. OWN who you are-- your interests and abillities, and yes, even faults... OWN them and then make them excel the best way for you-- and you're automatically set on your own path. Uniquely zagging. :) Yay! Stay off the bandwagons. Being unique is the best route.

Odd admission… Growing up with ADD (the ATTENTION based ADD, not the hyperactivity- strangely enough) always kept me away from the zig and firmly on the zag path… Sure, back then I hated it– all the work and struggle, but now I’m glad I had ADD. Made me really accept that alterior plans are the best kind. Finding my own way to solve problems.

OWN who you are– your interests and abillities, and yes, even faults… OWN them and then make them excel the best way for you– and you’re automatically set on your own path. Uniquely zagging.

:)

]]> By: Will http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/comment-page-1/#comment-119889 Will Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:00:55 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/#comment-119889 Noah, I could not agree more, you do need to zig when everyone else is zagging. What happens when you are in the situation that you are foreseeing the zig and act on it while everyone is zagging and they think you have no idea what you are talking about? Sorry I missed CommunityNext last weekend, I will make the next one, I promise. I will bring the Odwalla for you ;-) Will Noah,
I could not agree more, you do need to zig when everyone else is zagging. What happens when you are in the situation that you are foreseeing the zig and act on it while everyone is zagging and they think you have no idea what you are talking about?
Sorry I missed CommunityNext last weekend, I will make the next one, I promise. I will bring the Odwalla for you ;-)

Will

]]> By: Noah Brier http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/comment-page-1/#comment-119883 Noah Brier Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:30:02 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/#comment-119883 I don't remember what the context was . . . but yeah, that sounds like something I would have said. From a business perspective I was having a conversation about <a href="http://www.theonlyphoneyouneed.com/" rel="nofollow">T-Mobile Hotpot@Home</a> as a good example of this. I don’t remember what the context was . . . but yeah, that sounds like something I would have said. From a business perspective I was having a conversation about T-Mobile Hotpot@Home as a good example of this.

]]> By: Sean Tierney http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/comment-page-1/#comment-119876 Sean Tierney Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:15:32 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/07/16/the-education-system-fd-you/#comment-119876 Yep totally. Ross has it right too- there is rarely a single definitive right answer in the real world. the whole "many paths lead to the same peak" thing- it's more about critical thinking skills and being able to ask the questions that let you determine which peaks are worth climbing. I saw Seth Godin speak a month ago in Phx and he hammered this point as well. Traditional public schools are good at dulling the sharp corners and encouraging homogeneity and mediocrity (which is the recipe for being average and failing). He had a compelling talk - i wrote it up here FWIW: http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2007/05/24/seth-godin-is-a-quitter/ sean Yep totally. Ross has it right too- there is rarely a single definitive right answer in the real world. the whole “many paths lead to the same peak” thing- it’s more about critical thinking skills and being able to ask the questions that let you determine which peaks are worth climbing.

I saw Seth Godin speak a month ago in Phx and he hammered this point as well. Traditional public schools are good at dulling the sharp corners and encouraging homogeneity and mediocrity (which is the recipe for being average and failing). He had a compelling talk – i wrote it up here FWIW:
http://www.scrollinondubs.com/2007/05/24/seth-godin-is-a-quitter/

sean

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