Comments on: How to Get a Book Deal with World's Largest Publisher http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/ A blog about marketing, online communities and other business musings. Come join the fun! Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:14:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jane http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-904780 Jane Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:42:18 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/#comment-904780 Tim Well this is sad! so very very sad! and here is why.... ....Not so much as a single word from you with regards to " THE STRUCTURE OF A SUCCESSFUL BOOK PROPOSAL" giving hopeful new writers who have not been fortunate to have a friend here and there within your industry to help them along their way. Giving this false hope to those less fortunate quite frankly is worse than giving none at all. It begins here, where you write..... TIM FERRISS WRITES THIS VERY KIND GESTURE in APRIL 2007 "For proposal writing, I’ve found it key to get sample proposals to model yours after. My agent was excellent for this, and other writers can be amazingly helpful, especially if their books came out at least a year ago. I would send you mine, but there are some confidentiality issues and complications due to a few competitive and marketing areas. Wait a few months and I might be able to!" Really?? uh hmmm Nope!! Over a year passes by, we are now in 2008 and a gentle reminder just in case it had genuinely slipped your mind A request written "It’s been a while since the April 2007 posting where you said you might post your successful book proposal … Is it safe to share yet? " "Uh.. NOPE!! NOPE!! and in my opinion not likely" then again 2 years later "Hi Tim, In April 2007, you mentioned you might share your book proposal as a sample, after few months. I have been searching your blogs, but I haven’t seen your book proposal. It would help a lot if you could share your book proposal. Of course, I’d understand if you wanted to take any part out because of legal or competitive reasons. The purpose is to see an example of a structure of a successful book proposal." I then note your last but not least reply, which amazingly reads from Sept 2010 some THREE YEARS ON "Thanks so much for the kind words, all! It’s been an unreal 3 years since this post. Wow. I owe a big thank-you to Noah for giving me one of my first opportunities to write in blog-land!" All the best to you and yours, guys. Pura vida Tim" My response to that is " IT IS US THE END USER " the everyday regular guy/girl that has lined your pockets with fame and fortune! No, not your agent or your editor or your publisher, although they did help you along your way especially the friend that helped you with that very all important " THE STRUCTURE OF A SUCCESSFUL BOOK PROPOSAL" that you should be giving thanks to but us!!! which you have failed to mention or thank Perhaps that is something that you should remember and consider with your next book published?? I myself mean no malice in what I write just pointing out the simple bare truth of what did or in this case did not happen. I also do not know whether you write fact or fiction although by what I have read and observed I suspect the latter. I am not a writer but please for the sake of all over these three years which by your own words were " wait a few months ", allay their minds once and for all ...... Jane Tim

Well this is sad! so very very sad! and here is why….

….Not so much as a single word from you with regards to

” THE STRUCTURE OF A SUCCESSFUL BOOK PROPOSAL”

giving hopeful new writers who have not been fortunate to have a friend here and there within your industry to help them along their way. Giving this false hope to those less fortunate quite frankly is worse than giving none at all. It begins here, where you write…..

TIM FERRISS WRITES THIS VERY KIND GESTURE in APRIL 2007

“For proposal writing, I’ve found it key to get sample proposals to model yours after. My agent was excellent for this, and other writers can be amazingly helpful, especially if their books came out at least a year ago. I would send you mine, but there are some confidentiality issues and complications due to a few competitive and marketing areas. Wait a few months and I might be able to!”

Really??

uh hmmm Nope!!

Over a year passes by, we are now in 2008 and a gentle reminder just in case it had genuinely slipped your mind

A request written

“It’s been a while since the April 2007 posting where you said you might post your successful book proposal … Is it safe to share yet? ”

“Uh.. NOPE!! NOPE!! and in my opinion not likely”

then again 2 years later

“Hi Tim,

In April 2007, you mentioned you might share your book proposal as a sample, after few months. I have been searching your blogs, but I haven’t seen your book proposal.

It would help a lot if you could share your book proposal. Of course, I’d understand if you wanted to take any part out because of legal or competitive reasons.

The purpose is to see an example of a structure of a successful book proposal.”

I then note your last but not least reply, which amazingly reads
from Sept 2010 some THREE YEARS ON

“Thanks so much for the kind words, all! It’s been an unreal 3 years since this post. Wow.

I owe a big thank-you to Noah for giving me one of my first opportunities to write in blog-land!”

All the best to you and yours, guys. Pura vida

Tim”

My response to that is ” IT IS US THE END USER ” the everyday regular guy/girl that has lined your pockets with fame and fortune! No, not your agent or your editor or your publisher, although they did help you along your way especially the friend that helped you with that very all important ” THE STRUCTURE OF A SUCCESSFUL BOOK PROPOSAL” that you should be giving thanks to but us!!! which you have failed to mention or thank

Perhaps that is something that you should remember and consider with your next book published??

I myself mean no malice in what I write just pointing out the simple bare truth of what did or in this case did not happen. I also do not know whether you write fact or fiction although by what I have read and observed I suspect the latter. I am not a writer but please for the sake of all over these three years which by your own words were ” wait a few months “, allay their minds once and for all ……

Jane

]]> By: Eric http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-886059 Eric Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:04:47 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/#comment-886059 Hi Tim, In April 2007, you mentioned you might share your book proposal as a sample, after few months. I have been searching your blogs, but I haven't seen your book proposal. It would help a lot if you could share your book proposal. Of course, I'd understand if you wanted to take any part out because of legal or competitive reasons. The purpose is to see an example of a structure of a successful book proposal. Thanks for reply (I understand you are busy with your new book coming out soon) Eric Hi Tim,

In April 2007, you mentioned you might share your book proposal as a sample, after few months. I have been searching your blogs, but I haven’t seen your book proposal.

It would help a lot if you could share your book proposal. Of course, I’d understand if you wanted to take any part out because of legal or competitive reasons.

The purpose is to see an example of a structure of a successful book proposal.

Thanks for reply (I understand you are busy with your new book coming out soon)

Eric

]]> By: Tim Ferriss http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-860397 Tim Ferriss Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:21:17 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/#comment-860397 Thanks so much for the kind words, all! It's been an unreal 3 years since this post. Wow. I owe a big thank-you to Noah for giving me one of my first opportunities to write in blog-land! All the best to you and yours, guys. Pura vida :) Tim Thanks so much for the kind words, all! It’s been an unreal 3 years since this post. Wow.

I owe a big thank-you to Noah for giving me one of my first opportunities to write in blog-land!

All the best to you and yours, guys. Pura vida :)

Tim

]]> By: Scott Dinsmore http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-860114 Scott Dinsmore Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:11:18 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/#comment-860114 This is awesome to see Tim before he was internationally known as The Man! Very cool. Your success is incredibly well deserved. I read your book and give at least 5-10 copies out yearly. Congrats. To the NR (a happy member), Scott This is awesome to see Tim before he was internationally known as The Man! Very cool. Your success is incredibly well deserved. I read your book and give at least 5-10 copies out yearly. Congrats.

To the NR (a happy member),
Scott

]]> By: Michael Hayley http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-844020 Michael Hayley Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:56:31 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/#comment-844020 Tim, I've really enjoyed your book. I'm reading it for the 2nd time now. Amazing concept and fresh ideas. Tim, I’ve really enjoyed your book. I’m reading it for the 2nd time now. Amazing concept and fresh ideas.

]]> By: Susie Beifuss http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-446090 Susie Beifuss Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:34:19 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/#comment-446090 Hi Tim, I've just created a blog and then website, (although haven't gotten my Publisher 3 page site I designed to show up at my site, www.susiebeifuss.com), ....so for now am just redirecting my site to my blog, www.susieland.wordpress.com) , whew.!!...until day before yesterday, had never tried to create a blog or site, so gettin' there..... Am just beginning to write my first book, "Smiled Upon by Chaos", the first book in a series I'm planning named, "Adventures in Susieland" ...basically, probably 5 or so books in the series, all brief, to the point, somewhat irreverant cronicles of my travels from my . previous perspective ....... "disengaged-dysfunctional-family-childhood, and subsequent struggle-for-recovery-adulthood...........to a much-preferred perspective. This new perspective has allowed me to be happy and healthy and to be thankful for the gifts and lessons I received as well as the strengths I’ve gained along the way. ...........from there to here (as explained in blog 08/08/08) I plan to finish reading your book, follow your advice without question, aim HIGH (as you say, less competition at the top), and follow in your footsteps...(I've been around long enough to know what I want when I see it.....your intellect and insights are helping me trust my own instincts and GO FOR IT!!!! Thanks Tim, Susie Beifuss Hi Tim,

I’ve just created a blog and then website, (although haven’t gotten my Publisher 3 page site I designed to show up at my site, http://www.susiebeifuss.com), ….so for now am just redirecting my site to my blog, http://www.susieland.wordpress.com) , whew.!!…until day before yesterday, had never tried to create a blog or site, so gettin’ there…..

Am just beginning to write my first book, “Smiled Upon by Chaos”, the first book in a series I’m planning named, “Adventures in Susieland”

…basically, probably 5 or so books in the series, all brief, to the point, somewhat irreverant cronicles of my travels from my . previous perspective ……. “disengaged-dysfunctional-family-childhood, and subsequent struggle-for-recovery-adulthood………..to a much-preferred perspective.

This new perspective has allowed me to be happy and healthy and to be thankful for the gifts and lessons I received as well as the strengths I’ve gained along the way.
………..from there to here (as explained in blog 08/08/08)

I plan to finish reading your book, follow your advice without question, aim HIGH (as you say, less competition at the top), and follow in your footsteps…(I’ve been around long enough to know what I want when I see it…..your intellect and insights are helping me trust my own instincts and GO FOR IT!!!!
Thanks Tim,

Susie Beifuss

]]> By: Jason D http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-436976 Jason D Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:43:48 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/#comment-436976 Hi TIm, Love the book and am totally inspired. I appreciate that you went straight to hard copy and by-passed the temptation of ebook land. It's been a while since the April 2007 posting where you said you might post your successful book proposal ... Is it safe to share yet? ;) Hi TIm,

Love the book and am totally inspired.

I appreciate that you went straight to hard copy and by-passed the temptation of ebook land.

It’s been a while since the April 2007 posting where you said you might post your successful book proposal … Is it safe to share yet? ;)

]]> By: Olga Garcia http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-161847 Olga Garcia Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:58:21 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/#comment-161847 HI Tim, I haven't gotten the book yet but I am definitely in love with it already (good signs)! I just returned from backpacking for a year and cannot fathom having a 100hr work week yet alone a 40hr work week. I was not here when your book came out as I was traveling across The Great Ocean Road trying to find the most remote place in the southern part of Australia. It is awesome that you have taken it upon yourself to educate the world about a quality life! When I get my stuff sorted, hopefully we can talk more about living life. Sounds like you and your girlfriend are having a wicked time. HI Tim,

I haven’t gotten the book yet but I am definitely in love with it already (good signs)! I just returned from backpacking for a year and cannot fathom having a 100hr work week yet alone a 40hr work week. I was not here when your book came out as I was traveling across The Great Ocean Road trying to find the most remote place in the southern part of Australia.
It is awesome that you have taken it upon yourself to educate the world about a quality life!
When I get my stuff sorted, hopefully we can talk more about living life. Sounds like you and your girlfriend are having a wicked time.

]]> By: Karen Kelly http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-136656 Karen Kelly Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:24:08 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/#comment-136656 By the way - I bought T4HWW a few weeks ago because of the KILLER title. This is something you do not mention in the Huffington post of this post. Having a great title, a TV segment in one line, is really key to selling a book. By the way – I bought T4HWW a few weeks ago because of the KILLER title. This is something you do not mention in the Huffington post of this post. Having a great title, a TV segment in one line, is really key to selling a book.

]]> By: Karen Kelly http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-136655 Karen Kelly Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:22:32 +0000 http://okdork.com/2007/04/24/how-to-get-a-book-deal-with-world%e2%80%99s-largest-publisher/#comment-136655 I found this post, and Ferriss post on Huffington to be of interest as both someone who has worked in publishing for many years and as someone who just published a book, which I wrote very quickly for St. Martins. The book, THE SECRET OF THE SECRET, is a sober minded attempt to explain the cultural phenomenon of THE SECRET. My book goes beyond THE SECRET to explain, seriously, where the law of attraction comes from, and why Americans are so in love with the idea and have been throughout the decades. I have gotten great feedback from readers, and the book has so far sold in five countries - earning back four times what the publisher paid me. Still...the book chugs. From my point of view it is easy to get published, it is much more difficult to sell books. Ferriss' Huffington post is interesting, but I was left wanting more - more that I could apply to sales of my own book, which is good, provocative, and balanced. Mr. Ferriss any suggestions on how I can create a meme? I found this post, and Ferriss post on Huffington to be of interest as both someone who has worked in publishing for many years and as someone who just published a book, which I wrote very quickly for St. Martins. The book, THE SECRET OF THE SECRET, is a sober minded attempt to explain the cultural phenomenon of THE SECRET. My book goes beyond THE SECRET to explain, seriously, where the law of attraction comes from, and why Americans are so in love with the idea and have been throughout the decades. I have gotten great feedback from readers, and the book has so far sold in five countries – earning back four times what the publisher paid me. Still…the book chugs. From my point of view it is easy to get published, it is much more difficult to sell books. Ferriss’ Huffington post is interesting, but I was left wanting more – more that I could apply to sales of my own book, which is good, provocative, and balanced. Mr. Ferriss any suggestions on how I can create a meme?

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