Comments on: How not to Be. http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/ A blog about marketing, online communities and other business musings. Come join the fun! Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:14:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Denmark » Blog Archive » ‘Help’ - The Key Foundation To A Great Network http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-157364 Denmark » Blog Archive » ‘Help’ - The Key Foundation To A Great Network Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:08:38 +0000 http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/#comment-157364 [...] If you want an example of how not be, then read this post at Okdork.com [...] [...] If you want an example of how not be, then read this post at Okdork.com [...]

]]> By: David http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-50737 David Mon, 26 Feb 2007 02:05:49 +0000 http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/#comment-50737 I would like to hear more about your project. I would like to hear more about your project.

]]> By: Jason Alba http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-43940 Jason Alba Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:00:34 +0000 http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/#comment-43940 I am late to this dialogue, came from the Never Eat Alone blog - I remember the story in chapter 2... and here's what I think. Its hard to give all the time, especially when the people you give to (make introductions) don't appreciate it. Its hard when you make an introduction and have the dialogue go south because people don't know how to communicate. But I think that these people that don't give at all are missing out on a super-huge opportunity. When you hook two people up, and those two people have a mutually beneficial relationship, its a fact that they are together because you hooked them up. You get more value out of your relationships by being a proactive "power connector" (see the book) than a quiet contact that is hoarding your contacts ... so here's my epiphany - if you want value out of your network, figure how to give. Giving doesn't leave you with nothing - giving makes you more valuable!! I am late to this dialogue, came from the Never Eat Alone blog – I remember the story in chapter 2… and here’s what I think.

Its hard to give all the time, especially when the people you give to (make introductions) don’t appreciate it. Its hard when you make an introduction and have the dialogue go south because people don’t know how to communicate.

But I think that these people that don’t give at all are missing out on a super-huge opportunity. When you hook two people up, and those two people have a mutually beneficial relationship, its a fact that they are together because you hooked them up.

You get more value out of your relationships by being a proactive “power connector” (see the book) than a quiet contact that is hoarding your contacts … so here’s my epiphany – if you want value out of your network, figure how to give. Giving doesn’t leave you with nothing – giving makes you more valuable!!

]]> By: someone http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-26747 someone Wed, 27 Dec 2006 19:42:05 +0000 http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/#comment-26747 hey dudes, in the spirit of giving, could you please post your rolodex in this space. no? can you put one contact you think everyone here should have? cat got your tongue? but seriously, you really don't see the point the anonymous was making? would not a better way to get access to something be an offer to do or give something in exchange for something else? i give and i give and i give, did i get something else? NO! hey dudes,

in the spirit of giving, could you please post your rolodex in this space. no? can you put one contact you think everyone here should have? cat got your tongue? but seriously, you really don’t see the point the anonymous was making? would not a better way to get access to something be an offer to do or give something in exchange for something else? i give and i give and i give, did i get something else? NO!

]]> By: Luke http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-26718 Luke Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:44:18 +0000 http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/#comment-26718 I don't like the word "leverage" here, basically because it communicates a drastic difference of some kind (in this case, social/business value). Also, think about what makes a lever useful: you get a big long "lever arm" on one side and a very short one on the other side and then you can make something happen. So, aside from being offended that this guy would imply that my friend Noah is of significantly less relative value than whoever his contacts are, I also want to point out that the use of this term in this context is assinine in another way: both sides of a lever (the long AND the short one) need to exist in order for the work to get done, and it's the short side that really does all the hard "work". In other words, Noah's a huge pimp that is doing and will continue to do big things and therefore is a valuable contact for ANYONE to have. Secondly, it's no skin off the other person's nose to give Noah a call, and thirdly Noah is a smart and talented enough guy to make sure that he gets all the hard work done and that whoever helped him get there receives mad props and will consequently want to do so again in the future. If this person doesn't think you are worth connecting with others - why does he or she waste their time being connected with you?.... I don’t like the word “leverage” here, basically because it communicates a drastic difference of some kind (in this case, social/business value). Also, think about what makes a lever useful: you get a big long “lever arm” on one side and a very short one on the other side and then you can make something happen. So, aside from being offended that this guy would imply that my friend Noah is of significantly less relative value than whoever his contacts are, I also want to point out that the use of this term in this context is assinine in another way: both sides of a lever (the long AND the short one) need to exist in order for the work to get done, and it’s the short side that really does all the hard “work”.

In other words, Noah’s a huge pimp that is doing and will continue to do big things and therefore is a valuable contact for ANYONE to have. Secondly, it’s no skin off the other person’s nose to give Noah a call, and thirdly Noah is a smart and talented enough guy to make sure that he gets all the hard work done and that whoever helped him get there receives mad props and will consequently want to do so again in the future.

If this person doesn’t think you are worth connecting with others – why does he or she waste their time being connected with you?….

]]> By: Colin McDougall http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-26523 Colin McDougall Tue, 26 Dec 2006 19:51:41 +0000 http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/#comment-26523 Noah - It's nice to see others who believe in a world of abundance. Hey, you can leverage my contacts any day! Let's go create a bigger pie. I am working on some new projects and have a media mention coming in the new year. My slice of pie has been increased and I like to share :) Noah – It’s nice to see others who believe in a world of abundance.

Hey, you can leverage my contacts any day!

Let’s go create a bigger pie. I am working on some new projects and have a media mention coming in the new year.

My slice of pie has been increased and I like to share :)

]]> By: Mehul Patel http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-26400 Mehul Patel Tue, 26 Dec 2006 09:50:29 +0000 http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/#comment-26400 Helping your friends and family is the only way to experience joy and happiness, even if they won't or can't help, we must help in any and everyway we can :) Helping your friends and family is the only way to experience joy and happiness, even if they won’t or can’t help, we must help in any and everyway we can :)

]]> By: Brian http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-25193 Brian Sat, 23 Dec 2006 04:43:44 +0000 http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/#comment-25193 Send him a lump of cole for xmas. Send him a lump of cole for xmas.

]]> By: Ted Rheingold http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-25118 Ted Rheingold Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:07:12 +0000 http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/#comment-25118 reminds me I have a couple intro to make for you! reminds me I have a couple intro to make for you!

]]> By: Kevin Henney http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-25090 Kevin Henney Fri, 22 Dec 2006 20:58:39 +0000 http://okdork.com/2006/12/21/how-not-to-be/#comment-25090 Wow. Some people just don't understand the value of helping others. A little effort expended to help someone else succeed usually pays off for everyone. Over the long run, I think I've benefited more from the favors I've done than from anything else. Wow. Some people just don’t understand the value of helping others. A little effort expended to help someone else succeed usually pays off for everyone. Over the long run, I think I’ve benefited more from the favors I’ve done than from anything else.

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